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Do Statistics Prove Accused Nurse Lucy Letby Innocent?


Statistical analyses, a damning 2016 report by the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (RCPCH), and various other factual inconsistencies in publicly available official documents, may constitute reasonable doubt

Please forgive the personal touch but I have written this post in memory of my Mum who passed away recently and who many years ago was a nurse and midwife. I don’t know for certain that Lucy Letby did not commit the crimes of which she is accused (I don’t think she did) but, regardless, nurses everywhere should be greatly appreciated and applauded. This post is for them. And my Mum.

As readers of my blog will know, I have an interest in so-called cluster cases – criminal trials where there is an apparently high number of occurrences of some event. For example, ‘excess deaths’ at a hospital, within a family or among a GP’s patients. Or wicked postmasters fiddling books.

In such cases, particularly ones where the evidence is purely circumstantial, a grasp of statistics is critical. Since this is often lacking, whether among judges, jurors or, most worryingly, defence lawyers, there is scope for a miscarriage of justice to occur i.e. for an innocent person to be found guilty.

Where there is a cluster, it is important first to determine the probability of the cluster occurring purely by chance. In the case of ‘excess deaths’ on a particular hospital ward, this involves considering the probability of the ‘excess death’ rate occurring somewhere on that type of ward, not on one specific ward. If it is determined that the probability is low, then the cause must be investigated. Also, such investigations can be biased – they may be conducted by those who would be implicated in some way by the true cause of the ‘excess deaths’ being determined.

The trial, currently underway in Manchester, of Lucy Letby, the neonatal nurse at The Countess of Chester Hospital (COCH) accused of murdering 7 babies and of 15 attempted murders (pertaining to 10 babies) between June 2015 and June 2016 is a cluster case, and one where the evidence is purely circumstantial. The hospital first investigated an elevated number of deaths of very premature babies in February 2016. Almost five years later, in November 2020, Letby was charged, though at first she was charged with 8 murders and 10 attempted murders.

I should make it clear that I do not know if Letby is innocent. How could I? Nor am I going to speculate – what I present in this post are information and data gleaned from publicly available official documents, statistical analyses of said data, and references in the media to official documents, official announcements, court dialogue (all links provided). Finally, and importantly, whether Letby is innocent or not, the parents of the babies that are the subject of the trial have gone through and continue to go through a truly terrible experience.

Below is a list of the various official sources of information and data that I refer to in this post or have read in the course of my research.

Document 1: Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (RCPCH) Service Review of the neonatal service at the Countess of Chester Hospital (COCH), dated November 2016 (Link 1: http://allcatsrgrey.org.uk/wp/wpfb-file/rcpch_invited_review_nov_16_final_-for_dissemination-_08_02_17_1_30pm-pdf/, Link 2: https://pdf4pro.com/cdn/www-coch-nhs-uk-7537c.pdf, Link 3: http://www.coch.nhs.uk/media/141843/rcpch_invited_review_nov_16_final_-for_dissemination-_08_02_17_1_30pm.pdf. Note that this last link to the document on COCH’s own website now goes to a page that says, “There seems to have been an error, please navigate to the page on the menu above”).

Document 2: Care Quality Commission (CQC) Inspection Report, Countess of Chester Hospital NHS Foundation Trust, dated 17 May 2019 (Link: https://api.cqc.org.uk/public/v1/reports/75694247-129f-4e2d-8a12-b2e59d3245ca?20210116074506)

Document 3: Care Quality Commission (CQC) Inspection Report, Countess of Chester Hospital NHS Foundation Trust, dated 15 June 2022 (Link: https://api.cqc.org.uk/public/v1/reports/0257680c-6a9a-49fe-ac39-a5c982f58985?20221129062700)

Document 4: Care Quality Commission (CQC) Inspection Report, Countess of Chester Hospital NHS Foundation Trust, dated 30 September 2022 (Link: https://api.cqc.org.uk/public/v1/reports/85aed0ff-145b-4572-ab44-08bcd3124f78?20221129062700)

Document 5: Number of deaths (monthly) by type (late fetal loss, stillbirth, early neonatal, late neonatal, post neonatal) at the Countess of Chester Hospital NHS Foundation Trust, January 2013 to October 2018 (Freedom of Information Request Link: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/521287/response/1255362/attach/3/FOI%204568.docx?cookie_passthrough=1)

Document 6: Mothers and Babies: Reducing Risk through Audits and Confidential Enquiries across the UK (MBRRACE-UK), Perinatal Surveillance Report, UK Perinatal Deaths for Births from January to December 2015 (Link: https://www.npeu.ox.ac.uk/assets/downloads/mbrrace-uk/reports/MBRRACE-UK-PMS-Report-2015%20FINAL%20FULL%20REPORT.pdf)

Document 7: Mothers and Babies: Reducing Risk through Audits and Confidential Enquiries across the UK (MBRRACE-UK), Perinatal Surveillance Report, UK Perinatal Deaths for Births from January to December 2016 (Link: https://www.npeu.ox.ac.uk/assets/downloads/mbrrace-uk/reports/MBRRACE-UK%20Perinatal%20Surveillance%20Full%20Report%20for%202016%20-%20June%202018.pdf )

Background/RCPCH service review (Nov 2016)

By way of background, “the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (RCPCH) was invited to review the neonatal service at the Countess of Chester Hospital (COCH) following re-designation [demotion] from level 2 Local Neonatal Unit (LNU) to level 1 Special Care Unit (SCU) in July 2016 due to concerns about increasing neonatal mortality. A number of causes had been postulated but there was no definitive explanation for the trend”. This is the opening statement in the Executive Summary of the final copy of the RCPCH report dated November 2016 (hereafter referred to as the ‘RCPCH report’).

The findings of the RCPCH report were announced to the media in February 2017, along with the report itself. Although it was the hospital itself that downgraded its own neonatal unit, the RCPCH team that visited in September 2016 found significant failings by the unit in relation to reporting, staffing, practices, etc.. The team made various recommendations that it said should be implemented before a reinstatement of the unit as an LNU should be considered.

Missing deaths

The below neonatal deaths data is taken from an official COCH document that was made public as a result of a Freedom of Information request.

Source: COCH, https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/521287/response/1255362/attach/3/FOI%204568.docx?cookie_passthrough=1

According to the RCPCH report, “On 8th February 2016 a half day ‘high level’ thematic review of ten of the cases took place with the involvement of the ODN clinical lead.” (RCPCH report clause 3.7)

Given that the “half day ‘high level’ thematic review” took place on 8 February 2016, it would appear that the ten cases reviewed were the ten early neonatal deaths from June 2015 to January 2016 in the above table (Table 1.1). Of these ten, Letby was later charged in relation to just three of them. In other words, she could not be connected with seven of them.

Also, she was later charged with two murders in August and October 2015 (Children E and J). But, as can be seen in the table above, there were no deaths recorded in either August or October 2015. The data in the tables above are up to October 2018, so one would assume that there was plenty of time to correct any mistakes i.e. to include the two deaths in August and October 2015.

High incidence of ‘non-malicious deaths’ (those which Letby has not been charged with)

Letby is accused of murder in relation to 7 of the deaths in 2015 and 2016, but there were 11 for which she has not been implicated (Chart 1) presumably because she could not have been responsible for them (in fact, the defence, in its opening, said that she could not have been responsible for some of the 7 deaths that she has been connected with).

If we assume that ‘non-malicious’ deaths are distributed according to the Poisson distribution (deaths are independent of each other and occur at a rate of 2.7 per year, the average of 2013, 2014 and 2017), then the odds of there being 11 deaths (the ones Letby has not been accused of) over a two year period purely by chance is 1 in 83. In other words, the prosecution is asking the jury to believe that there is both a serial killer at work as well as some other factor (e.g. faulty equipment, understaffed unit, incompetence among medical staff) causing the deaths. And that these two factors both started and stopped at exactly the same time. Quite a coincidence!

By the way, for those who might be tempted to think the high death rate fell in 2017 (actually it was from mid 2016) because Lucy Letby was “caught”, remember that COCH’s neonatal unit was downgraded in June 2016 and so no longer was allowed to care for higher risk babies.

Chart 1

Source: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/521287/response/1255362/attach/3/FOI%204568.docx?cookie_passthrough=1

In the case of Beverley Allitt, the nurse found guilty in 1993 of murdering four infants, attempting to murder three others, and causing grievous bodily harm to a further six at Grantham and Kesteven Hospital, Lincolnshire, between February and April 1991, roster data (see below) determined (unlike in Letby’s case) that she was present at all 25 of the suspicious incidents that were investigated (Allitt was not charged for all of them).

Figure: Roster data in Beverley Allitt case

Source: The Beverley Allitt Tapes (Woodcut Media, Sky Crime documentary)

It should also be noted that Allitt never testified at her trial (according to the Greensboro News and Record, Allitt was not “in court for nine weeks of her 13-week trial because of [an] eating disorder and did not testify. Colleagues and psychiatrists were unable to suggest a motive, and she has made no public statements” (https://greensboro.com/english-nurse-convicted-in-death-of-infant-patients/article_bec86764-b5ed-5bf1-8d5d-719e01ff22db.html). Letby on the other hand chose to testify and spent nine days on the stand being cross examined (you can read all the reports in The Chester Standard and judge for yourself how she did). Furthermore, during the hours of police questioning, Letby did not once invoke her right to silence (again, you can read many of the various exchanges cited at trial in The Chester Standard). This, too, is unlike Allitt, who after a certain point of police questioning refused to say anything further.

Then there is the case of nurse Colin Norris who was convicted in 2008 of murdering four elderly patients and attempting to murder two others in 2002 (his case was recently referred to the Court of Appeals following a scientific finding that hypoglycaemia can have a natural cause and in the elderly often does – according to the prosecution the hypoglycaemia in Norris’ ‘victims’ was due to him having injected them with insulin). Norris was originally charged with five murders, but before trial roster data determined that for one of them he was not present so could not have been responsible. The police then started looking for second murderer, right? Er, no – they just decided that a death that they were previously certain was a murder was not in fact a murder, and reduced the count to four.

High incidence of multiple pregnancies in relation to murder/attempted murder charges

“The obstetricians were confident in their ability to manage high risk pregnancies including twins and triplets to later stages of gestation, and where cots and appropriate safe staffing are available it is preferable for families to be able to stay locally following delivery. The obstetrics team had expressed concern about four of the deaths particularly, which were discussed at the perinatal M&M meeting and found to have no antenatal indicators of concern. The review team was however concerned at whether there were sufficient staff for the LNU to care for triplets, for example, albeit post 34 weeks.” (Clause 4.4.14, RCPCH Report)

Chart 2 below shows that the percentage of multiple pregnancies in relation to the murder/attempted murder charges was way higher than in the general population. For example, in the general population, 1.2% of pregnancies are multiple pregnancies. In the case of the pregnancies at COCH where there was a murder charge, 50% were multiple pregnancies (3 of 6). In other words, it may be that the deaths and collapses reflected the high risk nature of multiple pregnancies rather than the presence of a murderer.

Chart 2

Source: https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2022-10-14/who-are-the-children-alleged-to-have-been-murdered-by-lucy-letby, https://www.raisingmultiples.org/faqs/faq-what-are-the-odds-of-having-a-multiple-birth/

Higher activity/lower admission birthweight than average

“Further in-depth analysis by the neonatal lead in July 2016 examined activity and acuity from June 2015. This included admissions per month, time between deaths, total care days per month, IT care days per month, birthweight and prematurity. This was not a systematic review but concluded that there was higher activity and lower admission birthweight than average during the period corresponding to the increase in mortality. This was not however considered to have been significant enough to explain the increase in mortality.” (Clause 3.8, RCPCH Report)

I would be interested to know if the term “significant” was used in its strictly statistical sense (i.e. statistical significance). I presume not, because the conclusion appears to be that of the ‘neonatal lead’, not a statistician. Also, it appears that the higher activity/lower admission birthweight was not considered sufficiently significant because it could not solely explain the increase in mortality. Why could it not have been deemed to have been a contributing factor, one among others? Then, what about nonlinearity? Presumably there is a point at which a small percentage increase in activity/decrease in birthweight leads to a large increase in mortality. To what extent was this considered by the neonatal lead?

Problems with UVCs/new UVC guidance (UVC = umbilical venous catheter)

“Following reflection both individually and in discussions the consultants noted that several of the infants had collapsed unexpectedly and had been surprisingly unresponsive to resuscitation, despite the staff following standard protocols in each case. One surviving infant was mentioned as having needed resuscitation for similar collapses over three nights but subsequently recovered, although the review team did not see details of ‘near misses’ such as this. The consultants did not initially consider that there were any links between the episodes of collapse in the infants that died but subsequently they began to note similarities. For example some of the infants displayed a sudden mottling appearing after a few minutes of resuscitation, usually starting on the limbs, and on at least one occasion on the central abdomen and chest. The consultants had considered a number of possible causes for this appearance but there remained no definite explanation.” (Clause 3.11, RCPCH Report)

If staff “followed standard protocols”, why was there a need for new UVC guidance, per clause 3.7? Indeed, there have already been several mentions during the trial of problems with UVCs in relation to a number of the babies, as below. To what extent did the consultants consider that the collapses may have related to the UVC issues? Since it would have been the consultants who inserted the UVCs, might they have preferred to have honed in on Lucy Letby rather than incorrect insertion of the UVCs?

Extract from Chester Standard reports mentioning issues with UVCs:

Nurse Melanie Taylor, who was the designated nurse for Child A on the shift before he died, gave evidence in court to say she had had “no concerns” with him and he was “stable”, but issues with a cannula and a UVC meant he was not receiving fluids for a couple of hours that afternoon. https://www.chesterstandard.co.uk/news/23062657.death-baby-lucy-letby-case-came-completely-blue-witness-says/

References to issues with UVCs in other Chester Standard articles reporting on the trial:

A chart shows any ‘major events’ that took place for Child A. One was UVC lines at 1pm.

Attempts to fit an umbilical vein catheter (UVC) twice failed

An addendum by Miss Taylor just after 7pm recorded the UVC was in the wrong position, and was reinserted, but was still in the wrong position.

The UVC was in the ‘wrong position’ twice – it had been taken out and re-inserted, but was still in the wrong place. Another option was sought.

Dr Beech said the UVC had come out of Child C during a previous shift

The trainee doctor was called to insert a UVC (a catheter) into Child A on the afternoon of June 8. Following an X-ray, the catheter was “not ideally placed”.

The radiology report said, from the x-ray, the ET tube was ‘in satisfactory position’ following the reintubation, along with the NG tube, while a UVC line required further adjustment.

The UVC was removed as it was ‘only able to advance to 5cm’. Dr Rylance says usually “you are expected to advance it much further.

A further note was made to say the UVC ‘continued to ooze’.

A second x-ray image of ‘effectively the whole body’ is shown the court at June 21, 1.32pm. Professor Arthurs notes two features – the ‘obvious one’ being the UVC going up towards the heart, which has been pushed in too far.

UVC still in situ, but in wrong position

Small number of deaths in 2016

According to the 2016 MBRRACE-UK (Mothers and Babies: Reducing Risk Through Audits and Confidential Enquiries) Perinatal Mortality Surveillance Report, the number of neonatal deaths at COCH in 2016 was low (“entry suppressed because of small number of deaths”), per the below screenshots. And yet according to the hospital data presented above, deaths in 2016 were high. The discrepancy is puzzling and in view of everything should be investigated.

Source: MBRRACE-UK Perinatal Mortality Surveillance 2015 and 2016 Reports

Dr Dewi Evans

Dr Dewi Evans was one of the medical experts called by the prosecution.

Asked at the trial on 14 October 2022 by prosecution barrister Mr Myers if he was being ‘an expert’ in being ‘an expert witness’, Dr Evans replied: “I think that’s far too flash for me. My role is to assist the court on some extremely challenging issues. I call myself an independent medical witness, not an expert.”

And yet on Dr Evan’s LinkedIn profile (below) he states that he provides “expert medical advice”.

Below is an excerpt from The Chester Standard’s report of the trial on Thursday, 9th February, 2023.

A REPORT from expert witness Dr Dewi Evans in an unrelated civil case was described as “worthless” by a senior judge, jurors in the trial of Lucy Letby have heard. Retired consultant paediatrician Dr Evans has been called by the prosecution to give his opinions as to why a number of babies suffered collapses at the Countess of Chester’s neo-natal unit. On Thursday, Manchester Crown Court was told Dr Evans was criticised over his involvement in an application for permission to appeal against a care order involving two children – in a case unconnected to Letby. Dr Evans supported the parents’ desire to have increased access to the children who were being cared for by their grandparents, the court heard. Refusing permission last December, Court of Appeal judge Lord Justice Jackson said Dr Evans’ report was “worthless” and “makes no effort to provide a balanced opinion”. He went on: “He either knows what his professional colleagues have concluded and disregards it or he has not taken steps to inform himself of their views. Either approach amounts to a breach of proper professional conduct.No attempt has been made to engage with the full range of medical information or the powerful contradictory indicators. Instead the report has the hallmarks of an exercise in ‘working out an explanation’ that exculpates the applicants. It ends with tendentious and partisan expressions of opinion that are outside Dr Evans’ professional competence and have no place in a reputable expert report. For all those reasons, no court would have accepted a report of this quality even if it had been produced at the time of the trial.”

Source: https://www.chesterstandard.co.uk/news/23312472.lucy-letby-trial-judge-described-expert-witness-report-worthless/

Below are some interesting excerpts from the RCPCH report that was published and given to the media in February 2017

“Since June 2015 the paedriatric consultants have become concerned about a higher than usual number of neonatal deaths on the unit, several of them being apparently ‘unexplained’ and ‘unexpected’. Most of these infants had post-mortem examinations, all cases had been reviewed by the mortality and morbidity meeting (M&M), and one had undergone a Root Cause Analysis review, with some also being examined by obstetric secondary review. On 8th February 2016 a half day ‘high level’ thematic review of ten of the cases took place with the involvement of the ODN clinical lead. A summary internal review of the nursing observations, staffing and junior doctor rotas for the 12 hours before the deaths was then conducted. No definite causal correlation was identified between the various cases, however a number of recommendations (such as new UVC guidance) resulted from the high level review.” (RCPCH clause 3.7)

Comment: There were various mentions of issues in relation to fitting of UVC in both the RCPCH report and at trial (more detail earlier in this post).

“Where neonates may require surgery (e.g. swollen abdomen) there is some confusion about the protocol with some clinicians contacting the surgical team at Alder Hey immediately, and others talking through the situation with the neonatologists in LWH or Arrowe Park first. These pathways were explored in a surgical review in April 2016 which made six recommendations for service providers and five for the network including a communication improvement plan and a single surgical model to reduce confusion and delays.” (RCPCH clause 3.7)

Comment: “confusion about the protocol” among clinicians sounds concerning

“Most of the consultants had been on duty for at least one of the deaths. Further in-depth analysis by the neonatal lead in July 2016 examined activity and acuity from June 2015. This included admissions per month, time between deaths, total care days per month, IT care days per month, birthweight and prematurity. This was not a systematic review but concluded that there was higher activity and lower admission birthweight than average during the period corresponding to the increase in mortality. This was not however considered to have been significant enough to explain the increase in mortality.” (RCPCH clause 3.7)

Comment: Why were higher activity and lower birthweight not considered to have been significant enough to explain the increase in mortality? Presumably the relationships (between activity/birthweight and mortality) are not linear i.e. above a certain activity or below a certain birthweight, mortality increases non linearly (perhaps exponentially). Furthermore, witnesses at the trial talked about ‘very high number’ of admissions.

“Following reflection both individually and in discussions the consultants noted that several of the infants had collapsed unexpectedly and had been surprisingly unresponsive to resuscitation, despite the staff following standard protocols in each case. One surviving infant was mentioned as having needed resuscitation for similar collapses over three nights but subsequently recovered, although the review team did not see details of ‘near misses’ such as this. The consultants did not initially consider that there were any links between the episodes of collapse in the infants that died but subsequently they began to note similarities. For example some of the infants displayed a sudden mottling appearing after a few minutes of resuscitation, usually starting on the limbs, and on at least one occasion on the central abdomen and chest. The consultants had considered a number of possible causes for this appearance but there remained no definite explanation.” (RCPCH clause 3.8)

Comment: If staff followed standard protocols, why was there a need for new UVC guidance? Also, Letby was only charged in relation to seven of the fourteen deaths from June 2015 to June 2016. What about the other seven, which would still have constituted an unusually high number? Why wasn’t Letby charged in these cases?

“In response to this allegation and the high acuity and activity on the unit the Medical Director, Nursing Director and Trust Board decided on 7th July to reduce the designation of the service to a Special Care Unit (SCU) caring for infants from a minimum of 32 weeks gestation pending an external review by the RCPCH, and the change appeared to have been handled sensitively and effectively by management with good network and public engagement.” (RCPCH clause 3.9)

Comment: It is far from clear in the RCPCH report to what “this allegation” refers but it seems to be an allegation that the elevated number of deaths were the result of harm. However, the decision to downgrade was also due to the high acuity and activity on the unit. In other words, it seems to be quite a coincidence that the elevated number of deaths was due to both harm having been inflicted and high acuity/activity.

“Two of the cluster of deaths were not reported; the current policy indicates that not all deaths need to be submitted as DATIX, if they are “expected deaths”, and in 2015-6 only 10 of the 13 deaths were reported as incidents on the neonatal incidents summary. The definition of ‘expected’ was not available but presumed to be that used in safeguarding/child death panels and it was not clear who is responsible for DATIX entry. Other areas in the hospital report well but the neonatal unit have for some time apparently been less systematic in reporting.” (RCPCH clause 4.4.5)

Comment: Reporting protocols were clearly not followed which is alarming

“There are however significant gaps in both medical and nursing rotas” (RCPCH report Executive Summary)

“The arrangements for investigating neonatal deaths must be strengthened; review findings appear to be reported at several different meetings but it is unclear at which the resulting actions are monitored. Despite sound structures, there seems to be disconnection between the neonatal leadership and the Trust’s governance and risk management processes. Reviews highlighted examples of poor decision making, delays in seeking advice, and delayed retrieval of infants to tertiary units.” (RCPCH report Executive Summary)

“The physical separation of the tertiary centres and lack of tight protocols for transfer to them remains a risk as is the commissioner indecision around integration of the three network transport services, leaving an under-resourced, single clinical transport team in Cheshire and Merseyside.” (RCPCH report Executive Summary)

“The service…is non-compliant on nurse and medical staffing levels, environment and accommodation for parents, support from the community neonatal team and postnatal follow-up.” (RCPCH report clause 4.1)

“The paediatrics team has self-assessed against the 2015 ‘Facing the Future’ standards for acure paediatric care, and stated complaince with all standards except the first – consultant presence at times of peak activity. There has been a ‘hot week’ system since 2008-9 but a single consultant is insufficent to safely cover both the paediatric and neonatal wards.” (RCPCH report clause 4.1.5)

“There is insufficient storage space resulting in many pieces of equipment being stored in corridors. Direct visibility from one area to another is poor, and infants are moved regularly to accommodate acuity – an extra risk in the system.” (RCPCH report clause 4.1.6)

“BAPM standards suggest that an annual report should be prepared for each neonatal unit. No such report had been produced for COCH due, presumably, to pressure of activity so this valuable opportunity for influence had been lost.” (RCPCH report 4.1.7)

“The paediatric service (including neonates) struggles to fill its Tier 2 (middle grade) posts and medical staffing numbers are inadequate for a Tier 2 LNU, although sufficient for a Level 1 SCU.” (RCPCH report 4.2)

“Although…on-paper compliant…there are only two scheduled consultant ward rounds per week on the neonatal unit, yet five on the paediatric wards. This would not meet training requirements or RCPCH and BAPM guidance for a LNU.” (RCPCH report 4.2.1)

“The investigation reports from the infant deaths showed a pattern of insufficient senior cover and a reluctance to seek advice. Given the acuity of the unit (pre 7th July) there should have been a greater level of consultant presence on the ward.” (RCPCH report 4.2.2)

“The review team was not aware of any strategic plans to stabilise the Tier 2 rota such as development of ANNPs or appointment of specialty grade doctors, despite an annual agency cost of around £125k. In one of the cases the nurses had expressed concern about the capability of the locum registrar whose agency had previously been advised not to offer the doctor to the Trust again. The nurses took steps to ensure the consultant was aware but it was not clear to the Review team that the locum recruitment process was sufficiently robust for such a situation not to recur and no learning/action was documented for this case.” (RCPCH report 4.2.4)

“There are however no ANNPs [at either Tier 1 or Tier 2 level.” (RCPCH report 4.2.7)

“The CQC indicated that neonatal staffing was of concern, requiring the Trust to “Ensure staffing levels are maintained in accordance with national professional standards on the neonatal unit and paediatric ward” but the detail of what this meant was not available in the public domain and no other concerns were raised in their report. The nurses on the unit were also supporting transitional care in the maternity unit and administration of antibiotics for infants from Cestrian Ward which depleted their availability for sick infants in the LNU.” (RCPCH report 4.2.10)

“In terms of acuity network data available to the team had indicated that COCH has a significantly higher proportion of late gestation admissions (over 37 weeks) than other local units – 10.73% compared with 5.69% average for the 22 units, and this had been raised for several years. The 2015-6 data available in October showed the figure had fallen to 7.8%, lower than the other two units in the region. A number of possible reasons for the higher level had been suggested including the transitional care arrangements, differences in obstetric approach, reluctance to discharge, low thresholds to transfer in or inexperienced medical staff but the increasing trend towards the network norm was commendable and should continue.” (RCPCH report 4.2.11)

“There were however some historical issues around senior level decision making. Some nurses reported that external escalation was not always as timely as it could have been, and nurses did not feel empowered to participate. Although the nurses work to a relatively traditional model, they reported that they will support escalation more “vigorously” depending upon which consultant or locum is on duty. Relationships are starting to improve although recent events around the reconfiguration had damaged relationships between senior nursing staff and the consultants and thus may need active intervention to restore trusting working relationships.” (RCPCH report 4.3.2)

“Leadership at senior Trust level appeared to be somewhat remote from the day to day issues taking place in the unit and representation on key decision making network groups was sometimes at a very high level with delays in feeding back to the operational team.” (RCPCH report 4.3.7)

Comment: On 20 September 2018 it was reported that COCH chief executive Tony Chambers had resigned (https://www.nationalhealthexecutive.com/News/trust-chief-executive-resigns-amidst-infanticide-investigation/211926). Chambers had been chief executive since 2012 and so was at the helm during the period of elevated deaths in 2015 and 2016.

“Although the ward can be really busy, everyone wants to progress, but the nurses felt there had been a dip in morale since the changes and information about the temporary reconfiguration had not been shared, even with the Band 6 nurses who had to manage the enquiries from anxious parants over the weekend following the announcement. Mention of installing CCTV on the unit without explanation had unsettled the nursing team further although the Unit Manager had strived to reassure them.” (RCPCH report 4.3.8)

“Until early 2016 there was a Risk and Patient Safety Lead but the role was redesigned when she left the Trust (around the time of the CQC visit) and the post of Risk Midwife was established and filled in May.” (RCPCH report 4.4.6)

“The review of deaths carried out by the (neonatal lead) consultants that, together with two additional deaths, triggered the unit’s reconfiguration in July 2016 did not use a recognised RCA process nor did it involve the governance lead/risk manager. The staffing grid in particular was not validated.” (RCPCH report 4.4.8)

“The RCPCH review team recommends that the death/near miss reviews process requires further strengthening and follow corporate process.” (RCPCH report 4.4.9)

“The review team was concerned that it was only when the data was formally reviewed by the analyst did management realise how busy the unit was; this had not been raised as a risk since the neonatal team had just continued to work harder.” (RCPCH report 4.4.12)

“Not all of the caes underwent a post mortem despite this being recommended in BAPM 2011.” (RCPCH report 4.4.13)

“The review team was however concerned at whether there were sufficient staff for the LNU to care for triplets, for example, albeit post 34 weeks. (RCPCH report clause 4.4.14)

“The RCPCH review team was concerned that the CDOP did not appear to be alert to the cluster of neonatal deaths, and for at least some there should have been a Rapid Response Meeting within 5 working days of notification. If the cause of death is not not clear then no death certificate can be written and the case must be referred to the coroner. (Recommendation: The CDOP should consider whether its processes could have detected the cluster of deaths and initiated external review more swiftly).” (RCPCH report 4.4.25)

“All those the review team spoke to told us that there are significant capacity pressures on the Cheshire and Merseyside Neonatal Transfer service, which contribute to delays in transferring infants out promptly.” (RCPCH report 4.5.1)

“There were several reports that the doctors will wait too long before escalating concerns about an infant, both from junior to consultant and also to the network and when they do seek tertiary level advice, the transport team is not informed sufficiently early to be on ‘standby’. Consequently when a decision to transfer is made, there may be further delay as the transport crew and an appropriate vehicle are mobilised. If the team is on another retrieval or undertaking a ‘park and ride’ surgical engagement then either the transfer must wait or another team mobilised from elsewhere in the network. With the Cheshire and Merseyside transport team having no ‘out of hours’ administrator to mange the cot bureau function it is incumbent on the referring clinician to identify and mobilise an alternative team. Since the re-designation of the unit there were reports that the consultants can spend up to 4 hours trying to find an available cot and retrieval team due to the increased demand for transfers. This is an unacceptable waste of senior medical time, and should be raised as an incident on DATIX. Other services in the UK create a ‘conference call’ so those giving advice and those on the transport team are aware of the status of infants which may require transfer. (Recommendation: Ensure tertiary advice calls include an ‘early warning’ or conference call to the transport team to enable better planning and deployment of the crew).” (RCPCH report 4.5.2)

“COCH is the busiest non-NICU in the C&M network, with 4800 cot days (3773/79% of which were SC/TC days). Analysis by the network of cot numbers and activity in its annual report had identified COCH as an outlier with over-provision of IC cots and under-provision of SC cots.” (RCPCH report 4.5.7)

“The network’s ‘top table’ review in January of a death in October 2015 was reported to have triggered improved data collection across other units, and another death in December 2015 also exposed inadequate liaison between COCH clinicians and the transport team. There appears to be no formal mechanism or process for joint M&M review across the network for infants who have been transferred between units and no mechanism to trigger closure of a unit when it has reached capacity.” (RCPCH report 4.5.9)

“The COCH works naturally with Arrowe Park NICU and is considering working more closely together (see 3.14). Where neonates may require surgery (e.g. swollen abdomen) there is some confusion about the protocol with some clinicians contacting the surgical team at Alder Hey immediately, and others talking through the situation with the neonatologists at LWH or Arrowe Park first. These pathways were explored in a surgical review in April 2016 which made six recommendations for service providers and five for the network including a communication improvement plan and a single surgical model to reduce confusion and delays.” (RCPCH report 4.5.10)

“The unit took 11% of network admissions but experienced 13% of the deaths in 2015. The consultants had explored a number of factors themselves but not in a systematic way nor following sound governance and root cause analysis processes, and the involvement of the network clinical governance group had been relatively supervisory, working on the summaries of cases rather than examining each in detail.” (RCPCH report 4.6.1)

“A number of recommendations have been included in this report which draw out areas of non-compliance with standards or where practice might have improved. To summarise: – Staffing levels are inadequate when mapped to the actual activity and acuity of a LNU under the BAPM standards, both from a nursing and a medical perspective. -Escalation of concerns to tertiary units for advice or transport was sometimes delayed and network agreement to encourage a lower threshold for escalation and discussion is required. – Most of the infants had undergone a Post Mortem from one of the three perinatal pathologists at Alder Hey but these did not include systematic tests for toxicology, blood electrolytes or blood sugar since the infants died in hospital. – In order to thoroughly examine the issues detailed case review of all the deaths (prioritising the unexpected deaths) should be conducted by an independent expert. The personnel issues cannot be resolved formally until this is completed.” (RCPCH report 4.6.2)

June 2022 Care Quality Commission (CQC) Inspection Report

On 15 June 2022, six years after the Letby was alleged to have committed her last murder/removed from duty, the BBC published an article titled “Countess of Chester Hospital maternity services unsafe” (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-61808681).

This was in response to the Care Quality Commission (CQC) publishing its Inspection Report of Countess of Chester Hospital NHS Foundation Trust, dated 15 June 2022, of an unannounced inspection in February and March in the same year (https://api.cqc.org.uk/public/v1/reports/0257680c-6a9a-49fe-ac39-a5c982f58985?20221129062700).

Below is the article (underlining mine).

A hospital has been ordered to make urgent improvements after a damning inspection found its maternity unit was unsafe.

The department at Countess of Chester Hospital was found to have a dangerous lack of staff and suitable equipment, the Care Quality Commission said. The hospital also scored the lowest rate nationally for staff morale, inspectors found. Bosses said they were “working hard” to make improvements. Countess of Chester Hospital NHS Foundation Trust remains rated as requires improvement overall. The unannounced inspection in February and March was prompted by concerns about the quality of care in certain areas. It covered medical care, surgery, maternity care and urgent and emergency services, as well as leadership. Inspectors found several failings at the maternity unit. Notably there were not enough staff with the right qualifications or skills to keep women and babies safe, or suitable equipment. The report also said the trust did not learn from compromised safety incidents to avoid them happening again. It said between April and November last year five patients had major haemorrhages after giving birth at the hospital, resulting in a need for unplanned hysterectomies. Not all those incidents were reported as serious and action plans were not completed quickly, the CQC said, and one patient’s lifesaving surgery was delayed as there was no hysterectomy kit in that part of the hospital. Staff morale was said to be the lowest at any NHS trust in the country with some staff saying there was a culture of bullying and discrimination, while not all staff felt respected, supported and valued, inspectors said. High waiting times were also highlighted, with just 13% of patients showing symptoms of breast cancer being seen within two weeks, when the national target is 93%. Inspectors did find staff were caring and knew how to protect patients from abuse, while the urgent and emergency services were able to maintain a “good” rating. Karen Knapton, the CQC’s head of hospital inspection, said the trust had “work to do to ensure people consistently receive the safe and effective care they have a right to expect”. “We recognise NHS services are under enormous pressure,” she said. “However, senior leaders must be visible and have good oversight to manage and mitigate challenges and risks – and we found this was lacking.” Trust chief executive Dr Susan Gilby, said work was under way to address “key areas for further improvement”. “In our maternity department, we have implemented and are continuing to develop measures to ensure we can consistently provide patients with the safe and effective care they have a right to expect,” she said. Dr Gilby said the hospital also wanted to recognise “the work which has taken place to embed a culture of compassionate care and treatment across services”.

PEACE LOVE RESPECT

Sep 10, 2023

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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gillgage

Sep 10, 2023

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I think you’ve made your point.

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gillgage

Sep 10, 2023

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Bye.

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Viviane

Viviane

Aug 31, 2023

I am no ‘Internet sleuth’ or ‘true crime obsessive’. I am no scientist, statistician or lawyer. I am a 56 year old woman who believes in the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. I like to think that I am intelligent, and use my thinking skills, logic and common sense. This whole case makes no sense. It is bewildering , to say the least, that such a blatant miscarriage of justice could happen in a so-called civilised society in 2023. My mind will not rest until justice for Lucy Letby is done. In the words of Voltaire ‘Il vaut mieux hasarder de sauver un coupable que condamner un innocent ‘.

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Sep 01, 2023

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I could not agree more: “It is better to risk sparing a guilty person than to condemn an innocent one’. Well said. Thanks so much.

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

Sep 10, 2023

Replying toViviane

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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willgil1990

Aug 24, 2023

7pm : “ Rumour was in the air looking for a neck to land on “

‘ Half Hanged Mary ‘ By Margaret Atwood

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Replying towillgil1990

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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Father Hernandez

Father Hernandez

Aug 23, 2023

Some people have understandably asked the question as to how and why a disparate group of individuals from different agencies – NHS staff, police, expert witness for the prosecution etc – could conceivably club together to “conspire” to convict Lucy Letby when she might well not be actually guilty in fact. I put the word “conspire” in inverted commas as I would suggest that such a course of action would not necessarily require an active, conscious conspiracy.

I do find it remarkable that even in discussions about UK politics and civil society amongst intelligent and generally well-informed people, there is pretty much never any reference to the potential influence of Freemasonry. But probably all of us in the course of our lives will have known of at least one relative, friend of the family, friend of a friend, acquaintance, etc, who was in the Masons. Indeed the third (2008) edition of Charles Arnold-Baker‘s famous +Companion to British History+ which sits on my shelf and by all accounts has adorned the shelves of Prime Ministers, records that as of 2008, there were approximately 600,000 Freemasons in Great Britain. Now by the reckoning of my admittedly poor and cursory mental arithmetic, that amounts to approximately 1 in 40 of the adult male population of the country who are Freemasons; amongst the middle classes the ratio will obviously be considerably higher; and I’m assuming that generally speaking, the concentration will get higher the higher up the “chain of command” you go – especially considering that the country’s top Freemason is a member of the Royal Family (if memory serves me correctly).

So what we are talking about here is a secret society, consisting of a significant proportion of British male doctors, lawyers, managers, businessmen, academics, police officers, politicians national and local, clergy, etc etc, who – as I understand it – have *sworn an oath* to extend preferential, though highly discreet, mutual assistance to one another as members of an exclusive fraternity.

Now I’m not saying that such an organisation is *necessarily* corrupt or corrupting; nor am i saying that the Masonic Lodges do not do a lot of good charitable work; nor especially am I saying that individual Freemasons are necessarily bad or corrupt people even in part; I myself know two blokes who are Freemasons and they are both thoroughly nice chaps. But what I am saying is that the potential for corruption – including things like miscarriages of justice – as a consequence of a society that operates in this way, is clearly there.

I’m also not necessarily saying btw that Freemasonry as an activity ought to be closed down. But certainly the potential for corruption needs to be acknowledged and, if present, addressed appropriately on a societal level. Indeed, if I were a Freemason I would certainly want to belong – as I’m sure most do – to a brotherhood where fraternal relations can be fostered and good charitable work done in an environment where morals and integrity are not compromised.Show Less

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Charlotte Lee

Charlotte Lee

Aug 25, 2023

Replying toFather Hernandez

I know a police officer who was threatened by the freemasons to not convict a child abuser, but he did, knowing it would be the end of his career. Harry Hyams who usually had bad press for his Centre Point building, helped him by getting him into working in finance instead.

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Mari Smith

Mari Smith

Aug 26, 2023

Replying toCharlotte Lee

There is so much corruption involving freemasonry. I wish it freemasonry was made illegal. It’s a great pity the Freemasons can’t be named and brought to justice for threatening the policeman. Is there a published list of people who are Freemasons? If not there should be.

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

PEACE LOVE RESPECT

Sep 10, 2023

Replying toFather Hernandez

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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Unknown member

Aug 22, 2023

I’ve yet to make my way through all of this, but you’ve made a fairly elementary error (?) in your calculation based on a Poisson distribution (1 in 83 chance of 11 excess deaths over two years).

The fair way to test this is not to look for the p of exactly 11 deaths over a two year period, but, in line with standard hypothesis testing, test the probability that you would observe results at least as extreme as observed [sum(dpois(11:20, lambda = 2.7*2))]. You wouldn’t suggest flipping 5000 heads out of 10000 flips was evidence of an extraordinarily unlikely event, right? Odds are 1/125, but it’s the most likely individual outcome!

The cumulative probability is closer to 1 in 44 – all other assumptions being maintained.

On a slightly different note, Letby not being charged with murder/attempted murder in some cases does not directly imply these deaths could only have been caused by some form of negligence/malpractice – this is some kind of Uno reverse of the prosecutor’s fallacy. A more parsimonious explanation may be that the CPS didn’t think the prospect of conviction was sufficiently high to warrant pursuing (although why this would be, I don’t know).Show Less

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Sean Lydon

Sean Lydon

Aug 26, 2023

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She couldn’t be charged with murder because murder was a retrospective determination long after the event. Death by natural causes was the autopsy verdict. The basic facts aren’t reported so falsehood piles upon falsehood. Colin Stagg all over again in terms of an innocent person being convicted by media driven mob. Only in that case there *was* a murder.

***These attacks were reported to span the period June 2015- June 2016. At the time nobody suspected Lucy Letby of wrong-doing. It was only after the Consultants, running the neonatal unit, were the subject of a critical report from the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (RCPCH) that the Consultants filed a report with the police alleging the infant deaths were due to the actions of nurse Lucy Letby. In all but one case, the infants received autopsies, and the coroner found that they died of natural causes.***

https://rexvlucyletby2023.com/Show Less

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gillgage

Sep 01, 2023

Replying toUnknown member

I must be too old and stupid for this, but thanks for posting here. For any others who need a translation:

“The classic example of the prosecutor’s fallacy arises when a prosecutor (whence its name) argues that 1) if the accused were guilty, the probability of the evidence at hand (for example, a DNA match) would be high; therefore, 2) given the evidence at hand, the probability of the accused’s guilt must be high.”

And:

“Put simply, the UNO Reverse Card just means ‘No, you’, indicating a statement you make after another says they will do something to you.”

Cheers.

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Ash

Ash

Aug 22, 2023

I strongly believe Lucy Letby has been wrongly convicted. The prosecution’s evidence against her was highly circumstantial and there was reasonable doubt. The prosecution’s smoking gun was; a post it note, she wrote in which she said ‘I killed them because I’m not worthy, it must be my fault’. These were ramblings of a mentally distressed young nurse who at the time, was being bullied by colleagues (who were accusing and blaming her for the babies deaths). Any psychiatrist/criminologists will tell you that this note wasn’t a confession. There’s also so much the prosecution left out in court- such as the death toll was still high even after Lucy was not working at the ward at that time. There were various staffing issues, there were dangerous sewage issues, poor hospital management.. and let’s face it, Lucy had a pretty rubbish defence team! The scientific evidence against her is non existent. I invite you to have a look yourself…

https://rexvlucyletby2023.com/Show Less

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gillgage

Sep 01, 2023

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Absolutely right!

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

Sep 10, 2023

Replying toAsh

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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colin taylor

colin taylor

Aug 21, 2023

Their is so much skulduggery,deceit ,opinion ,none fact based innuendo surrounding this case it is frightening.

I cannot understand how consultants allowed Lucy Letby to operate after they became “suspicious”.The fact is they are the clinical “Gods” in total charge medically in hospital.

Yet they blame managers who are not clinicians for not stopping her.

That is their job.

Buck passing plus an easy target .

Nurses do not work alone.

I am not saying she is innocent I just don’t know.

She deserves to appeal on basis of fresh evidence and poor judge direction.

That’s

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gillgage

Sep 01, 2023

Replying tocolin taylor

If we don’t know if she’s innocent then we don’t know if she’s guilty. Call it the defence fallacy.

Thanks for good post.

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

PEACE LOVE RESPECT

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Replying tocolin taylor

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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peter5176

Aug 19, 2023

Ian that is not FACT. Hindmarsh was wrong. Those blood readings could have been achieved naturally. See https://rexvlucyletby2023.com/work_1/.

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Ian Wareing

Ian Wareing

Aug 19, 2023

Replying topeter5176

Wow. I stand corrected……if there was no ‘smoking gun” as described on Panorama, then there can be no “beyond all reasonable doubt” and therefore no safe conviction in my view.

Thanks for the extra information.

Thanks

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

Sep 10, 2023

Replying topeter5176

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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Ian Wareing

Ian Wareing

Aug 19, 2023

Whilst I understand that stats can be

manipulated , especially in a corporate environment whose reputation is at stake, I cannot get over the FACT that some babies were injected with insulin. If it wasn’t Letby

…..then who else could it POSSIBLY have been?

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peter5176

Aug 19, 2023

Replying toIan Wareing

Ian that is not FACT. Hindmarsh was wrong. Those blood readings could have been achieved naturally. See https://rexvlucyletby2023.com/work_1/.

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bex_25

Aug 22, 2023

Replying toIan Wareing

Ian, the the mother of the baby ‘injected’ with insulin had gestational diabetes. The immune response this creates is passed through the placenta and into the baby and also extends the half life of the insulin the baby has naturally produced. Apparently this disproportionately affects twins according to previous studies. It all adds up to me. Have you read the Rex vs Lucy Letby report? It’s crucial to her exoneration and should have been used in the defence in her trial.

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gillgage

Sep 01, 2023

Replying topeter5176

This is true.

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Alex Edwards

Alex Edwards

Aug 19, 2023

Well, from what I’ve read today (and on the panorama TV show), they showed Roster data which indicated Letby WAS present at every single suspicious incident. So the comment below appears to be wrong.

“In the case of Beverley Allitt, the nurse found guilty in 1993 of murdering four infants, attempting to murder three others, and causing grievous bodily harm to a further six at Grantham and Kesteven Hospital, Lincolnshire, between February and April 1991, roster data (see below) determined (unlike in Letby’s case) that she was present at all 25 of the suspicious incidents that were investigated (Allitt was not charged for all of them).”

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Egle

Egle

Aug 21, 2023

Replying toAlex Edwards

Alex, at least one of the cases she wasn’t present. The info was also provided in the court. She was on duty at day shift but finished it, then few hours later baby feeding bag was changed by someone else taking random bag from the storage and then the baby deteriorated with insulin in its blood. I can’t remember the exact details at the moment, sorry about that. She was found guilty in this case and that has been the final red flag for me that this case has been even more unbelievable stupid than I thought it is.

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bex_25

Aug 22, 2023

Replying toAlex Edwards

https://rexvlucyletby2023.com/work_1/.

Have a thorough read of this. The deaths actually continued to rise after she was taken off the ward.

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

PEACE LOVE RESPECT

Sep 10, 2023

Replying toAlex Edwards

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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Roger Moody

Roger Moody

Aug 19, 2023

We need an ‘ expert’ in systems theory to unpick this series of events, first of all establish causality and the work forwards I.e. specific evidence of ‘ poisoning’, then abstract reasoning from that evidence.

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

Sep 10, 2023

Replying toRoger Moody

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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Roger Moody

Roger Moody

Aug 19, 2023

Remember the Vincent tabac landlord? Jumped on the guy, seem to remember it was the sun newspaper😂😂😂

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gillgage

Sep 01, 2023

Replying toRoger Moody

Yep – there was a movie about him and he was awarded compensation I think?

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gillgage

Sep 01, 2023

Replying toRoger Moody

The Lost Honour of Christopher Jefferies

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3429354/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_2_nm_0_q_The%2520Lost%2520Honour%2520of%2520Christopher%2520Jefferies

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Jan-Willem Arnold

Aug 18, 2023

There has been a similar case in The Netherlands. Her name (you have to believe this): Lucia de Berk. She has been handed a lifelong sentence. She was accused and found guilty of 7 murders and several attempts. After conviction there was a lot of activism to undo the verdict. In the end, after six years in prison she proved to be innocent. The murders never occurred. https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaak-Lucia_de_Berk There is a movie of the case: ‘Accused’. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1800338/

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Peter Gill

Peter Gill

Aug 20, 2023

Replying toJan-Willem Arnold

There’s also a similar case in Australia – Kathleen Folbigg. After 20 years in jail as the most hated mother in Australia, Folbigg was freed this year. She was jailed due to her diary entries and Meadows Law. At the 2022/2023 Inquiry, numerous experts on the meaning of diary entries were called.

In Lucy’s case, does anyone know if all Lucy’s self-loathing diary and post-it entries were made AFTER she knew she was a suspect? If so, her diary and post-it entries make some sense. If there were written before she knew she was a suspect, then maybe she did it.

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Peter Gill

Peter Gill

Aug 21, 2023

Replying toJan-Willem Arnold

Now that I’ve read

https://www.science.org/content/article/unlucky-numbers-fighting-murder-convictions-rest-shoddy-statshttps://www.science.org/content/article/unlucky-numbers-fighting-murder-convictions-rest-shoddy-stats

I see that the Lucia de Berk case is highly relevant to Lucy Letby’s case, whereas the Australian Folbigg case is only relevant due to the use of genuine diary experts to free her.

After this coincidence, I‘m not naming any of my children Lucie.

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Mari Smith

Mari Smith

Aug 22, 2023

Replying toPeter Gill

I think I read she wrote them whilst being accused and after she was first arrested. The ordeal would explain her ramblings and mental health at the time.

After police interrogation, lack of sleep and so on it would effect the strongest people. She also wrote that she was innocent.

Maybe the police had made her think she was responsible.

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gillgage

Sep 01, 2023

Replying toJan-Willem Arnold

Yes, worth watching.

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

Sep 10, 2023

Replying toJan-Willem Arnold

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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RetiredDoc

Aug 18, 2023

I’ve been following this trial since it started, and indeed been aware since LL’s arrest. It felt wrong when the arrest was made, and I cannot understand how the criminal burden of proof is supposed to have been reached here. ‘Beyond reasonable doubt’? No. There is huge doubt surrounding this conviction. I get that some of the bereaved may need someone to blame, and an individual is an easier focus than nebulous systemic failures.

She appears to have exhibited some unusual, and – with hindsight – regretful behaviours after babies died, and is of course now being painted as a ‘vanilla weirdo’, which fits with the narrative of scape-goating. But I’m not sure many of us could have our private life picked apart and not have regretful behaviours uncovered.

I just do not think this nurse actually killed these babies. I do hope there is a properly and carefully prepared appeal. Show Less

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Aug 19, 2023

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“But I’m not sure many of us could have our private life picked apart and not have regretful behaviours uncovered.” – I like this, a wise insight. Among all the commentaries after the guilty verdicts there was one lone voice in support of Lucy Letby. A childhood friend said (I paraphrase) “Lucy was a good and kindly friend. I would only ever believe she was guilty of these crimes if she stood before me and admiited these crimes”. This friend in my mind carries significant weight as to her character. More weight than those with “expertise”, with no personal knowledge of Lucy letby, who make their contributions after the guilty verdicts. David Wilson is one with “expertise” – a criminal psycholgist. His contributions, signs of narcissism, Munchausen disorder. Show Less

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

PEACE LOVE RESPECT

Sep 10, 2023

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(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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Aug 18, 2023

Guilty as charged (of seven murders etc). As per usual, having been convicted without reasonable doubt, character assassination duly follows. This is a feature of high profile criminal trials, all is revealed after guilty verdict. Prior to arrest, charging, and eventual conviction, the individual concerned is an ordinary joe. After conviction joe is exposed as a narcissist, cold blooded psychopath etc etc etc. Past behaviour is interpreted in a new and ghastly way. I have not at any stage had the patience nor the time to study this case. My views based purely on instinct and the little I have grasped when following court evidence, and critically the whole case being circumstantial. It remains my belief that Lucy letby is innocent. I stand to be woefully wrong – and corrected – in my belief. One last thing. Doctors and hospital management look for a reason, preferably one that exonerates themselves (this is par for the course, this is how things work). Police when called instinctively look for a crime – not to eliminate a crime. At the outset they are building a case and establishing evidence. They interpret thing in a way that suits their agenda – post it notes for example. At an appropriate time CPS get involved and are influenced by all those who have gone before (hospital doctors, hospital management, police), they join the conspiracy and charges are levelled, the case goes to court. Lucy Letby? in all likelihood a mere victim of a cold blooded system, and each in that system being able to believe that they themselves had only an insignificant part in a possibly horrendous miscarriage of justice. Show Less

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gillgage

Sep 01, 2023

Replying tox

Exactly.

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

PEACE LOVE RESPECT

Sep 10, 2023

Replying tox

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

PEACE LOVE RESPECT

Sep 10, 2023

Replying tox

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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x

Jul 30, 2023

The terrible thing about this case is it is quite possible (even likely) that Lucy Letby will be found not guilty. Yet not only has her life been wickedly destroyed, there will be many who will think that “not guilty” is not innocence. That she has walked free from court due to the presence of reasonable doubt as to her guilt. Disgusting case, a shocking conspiracy of hospital doctors, hospital management, police, and the CPS. From the above you will gather I have the conviction that Lucy Letby had nothing to do with these murders/attempted murders. I back my gut feelings over the vast (and impressive) array of her accusers

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Peter Gill

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

PEACE LOVE RESPECT

Sep 10, 2023

Replying tox

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

PEACE LOVE RESPECT

Sep 10, 2023

Replying tox

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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Richard Gill

Richard Gill

Jul 11, 2023

I noticed a typo: it’s the “Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health”, not Paediactrics

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Sep 10, 2023

Replying toRichard Gill

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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Watcher NT

Watcher NT

Jul 03, 2023

I find this case deeply disturbing, for all the reasons you have listed above, and more. On my reading of the data the perceived increase in the number of child deaths may not even be significant when compared to average figures for comparable units, and may simply be a reflection of the increased number of children in their care and the fact that they were sicker. I am far from convinced that foul play was a factor in any of the deaths and I suspect that these parents have been told that their children were victims when in fact their deaths had quite a different explanation.

I’m also concerned at the portrayal of the “expert” evidence as “assisting the court” when it is clearly assisting the prosecution.

I’ve never seen a case brought to court on such flimsy evidence and where the prosecution has woven a contorted narrative to place Letby at the ‘scene of the crime’. In one of the ‘murders’ with which she is charged, the child experienced multiple desaturations prior to Letby having any role in his case, yet his next desaturation is alleged to be an attempt on his life by Letby.

I do not know what verdicts the jury will return, but if she is found guilty I will regard it as one of the most significant miscarriages of justice of my lifetime, played out in front of a baying crowd who are unable to understand that the plural of ‘accusation’ is not ‘evidence’Show Less

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

PEACE LOVE RESPECT

Sep 10, 2023

Replying toWatcher NT

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

PEACE LOVE RESPECT

Sep 10, 2023

Replying toWatcher NT

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

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Richard Gill

Richard Gill

Jul 03, 2023

This work is so important. My deep respects, Peter. And you didn’t even touch on the sewage issues and God knows what else. Rates of miscarriages and still births were also high during the peak times of deaths. Clearly the work of a witch. The medical evidence suggests enterovirus and parechovirus epidemics such as occur more and more often on neonatal wards with poor hygiene. The two insulin results are spurious, incorrectly analysed and totally inconsistent with the medical picture of those infants in the period around the alleged acts. The post-it note indicates PTSD after being continually hounded by powerful agents for several years. https://gill1109.com/2023/05/24/the-lucy-letby-case/

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Mari Smith

Mari Smith

Aug 22, 2023

Replying toRichard Gill

I agree the post- it is the ramblings of someone with PTSD or having mental trauma, the situation and allegations against her would break many people’s minds.

Lucy Letby is intelligent and would have write coherently as part of her job. It’s also possible she’d been drinking alcohol when she wrote it.

Lack of sleep and the ordeal she found herself facing would surely effect her mind and thoughts.

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

PEACE LOVE RESPECT

Sep 10, 2023

Replying toRichard Gill

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

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PEACE LOVE RESPECT

PEACE LOVE RESPECT

Sep 10, 2023

Replying toRichard Gill

(IN MY OPINION) Miss Lucy Letby (NURSE) IS ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT WOMAN.

She is used by the authorities as the SCAPEGOAT.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE KEPT IN PRISON FOR THE CRIMES WAS NOT COMMITTED BY HER.

PLEASE PROPERLY INVESTIGATE THIS CASE IMMEDIATELY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY RELEASE HER.

“ONLY THE FOOL AND INADEQUATE JUSTICE SYSTEM WILL BE ALWAYS IMPRISONED THE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN.”

(Said by: Mr Ahmet Erol AYDIN.)

Enough is enough!

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