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Dr Srinvasaro Babarao's Testimony of 17/06/24 - Day 6 - in the Retrial of Baby K

Example of How a Non-Partisan Expert Testified & Renewed Hope


Dr Babarao's testimony, testimony, has certainly sent SHOCK waves round the Court and put the metaphorical cat amongst the pigeons from what I've seen by those reporting outside the MSM who are in attendance at this case. Even Judith Moritz has changed her reporting tone in tweets on 'X' (formerly Twitter) and, as for the rest of the MSM, they are either trying to disingenuously skim over it (the few/couple that I've seen giving the retrial a mention), totally ignore it/staying silent and nor giving much coverage (the majority?) or still trying to convince their readers/followers that Lucy Letby is the one that caused the harm with their usual derogatory headlines (the usual culprits, mainly the Daily Fail).


Reading about his testimony has certainly given me renewed hope and able to see that light at the end of a long…



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The Colin Norris case

The Colin Norris case is illustrative of the problems faced by the defence in relation to the lab test that identified the possibility of exogenous insulin administration.


There was a single lab result, in relation to a death, that revealed undetectable C-peptide with an insulin level of 12,408 pmol/L, combined with a blood sugar level of 0.6 mmol/L.


This was accepted by the jury as proof of exogenous insulin poisoning when combined with the evidence of the victim being in a coma before death, due to low blood sugar.


The test was clinical and could not be considered to meet forensic standards – no chain of custody for the sample and no repeat testing, for instance.


It was sufficient to convict.


It is possible that cases such as this convinced the defence that it was not possible to question the lab test.


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Stepping Hill Hospital case

The Stepping Hill Hospital case (Chua) is interesting.


The CPS originally blamed one nurse - then dropped the charge and blamed another, who was convicted.


But there was hard evidence, in that case, of tampering with IV bags and saline vials, which tested positive for insulin. The case then relied on staff rota and an alleged confession note.


There were two murder charges and 19 charges of harm through insulin.


Compare to the LL case.


No direct evidence of insulin in any TPN bags. Only two mixed cases put forward. There does not appear to be any discussion of how common hypogycemia is in neonates, or any attempt to rule out other causes of hypoglycemia. Theories were put forward as to how multiple TPN bags were spiked that contradicted other evidence. There does not appear to be a warning, by the judge, of the possibility of errors in lab testing,…


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Supporting Lucy at her leave to appeal hearing (1)


Further to my blog post on the subject, please post any comments here about organising a gathering on 25th April to support Lucy (or if preferred send an email to peter@chimpinvestor.com and I can post your comment/thoughts here on your behalf).



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It's all about energy

The top four causes of neonatal death, no matter which specific unit or location in the world, are asphyxia (particularly birth asphyxia and trauma from complications during labour and delivery), infection (particularly sepsis and pneumonia), low Birth Weight/Prematurity and congenital malformations. All the babies in the Letby case series had at least one, and usually more than one of these. 50% of neonatal deaths happen in the first 48 hours. (from womb to tomb). Preterm babies are born in a negative energy state. They use energy quicker than their stores can resupply. A preterm baby has enough glucose to last only a few hours. Therefore, they need a lot of external help to survive. The help need not be overly technical nor difficult to achieve, but it is difficult to sustain day in and day out. Bubble CPAP and a central line will get you 90% success. But you need…


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